Do we control our thoughts or control our thoughts?

Both are not realistic.

Please think of thermodynamics, which is completely and absolutely subject to the person who supposedly thinks and can act from it.

In addition, man is also subject to the natural logical principles, and therefore cannot allegedly violate the power of a supposedly existing mind.

All natural logical principles, which are culturally cumulated and symbolized in mathematics, among others, are in principle natural deterministic principles.

This means that man not only follows the thermodynamics, which are ultimately subject to logical principles, without any intervention, but that in principle he is subject to ALL logical natural principles deterministically, and thus no OWN action can generate.

Man cannot violate logical principles, which is why he is ultimately a prisoner of all logical principles, especially since nature is based exclusively on logical principles, as the natural sciences and mathematics prove without exception.

Consequently, any kind of thinking or action of man is only a consequence of the previous step in the overall course of a universe, which is why man cannot take his own step, independent of the logical nature of this universe.

Thinking, then, in a simplified way, is not what we think of thinking, and action is thus not the consequence of the thinking of an individual, but action that seems to emanate from an object, is the result of an individual’s LOKAL not transparent total flow of a universe.

However, there is already a way to escape, and it looks exactly SO:

If a living object uses a random function (e.g. dice, neuron talk in brains, etc.), it can (but unfortunately only apparently only on closer examination) generate a different event orientation, which thus arises randomly/arbitrarily, precisely by a random function to trick the logic, so to speak.

In this way one (unfortunately only apparently) generates a break in the deterministic world course, since one has thus initiated an arbitrary, thus apparently not corresponding to deterministic logic, course.

Just to think about it.

See also:

Ron Heide’s response to after much research it turns out that our lives are just a simulation.What changes for us humans, and how do you get out of the simulation?

Ron Heide’s answer to How does consciousness actually arise?

Ron Heide’s answer to How do our thoughts come about?

Ron Heide’s response to What does the term “logic” mean?

Ron Heide’s answer to Do you believe that every human being is just a product of his environment and perception?

This leads to consequences for the so-called Free Will:

Do people really have free will?

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